Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by roscoe36, Dec 12, 2005.
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I know Stan is the enemy, and I love calling him Stan Van Jeremy, but I do think he is a darn good coach who was put in an awkward situation this year.
If he is indeed having family issues, I wish Stan the best of luck. Some things are more important than work.
This is no small change. If Riley as suspected takes over at the helm, right after the return of Shaq, it looks planned to me.
It also means we see Miami tightens up it's game. Hang on cause it's about to get a little bumpy.....
What a bummer. I would much rather face the Heat with Van Gumby than Pat Riley.
I bet this was orchestrated by management. We'll never know the truth.
Returning to porn?
It has also been rumored that Van Gundy will star in "Boogie Nights 2: The Return of Ron Jeremy's Big Thingy." He has to put on some weight for the role. He was getting to thin in that "other job" in South Florida.
Definitely a 'planned' thingy. Riley was smart enough to wait til Shaq is back before he makes the move, so he can show the world that once he takes over, the Heat will definitely have a better record.
PR is overrated. WOW! he won 4 titles..... but I could have coached those teams to the finals. Yes their record will be better then 11-10. However, PR can't go out and play defense or shoot 3's for them. He can't cause JW to play under control, or Shoot the jones' missed 3's. He also can not take GP to the fountain of youth or cause Shaq to stay healthy. This is one Piston fan still not scared. Coaches don't win games players do.
Riley is a very slow downed offense coach. I will be interested to see how much their offense is effected.
van gundy has seemed like he wanted ot so far this year because the situation he was put through.
I watched the press conference on nba.com it was 40 minutes of Van Gundy saying he was leaving to be with his family. He regretted the timing but he was missing too much. He said his daughter’s birthday was last month and that he would only have 4 years until she went to college and he wanted to be there. He said during the regular season he would only see his kids like 49 times because when he goes to work there not up yet and when he gets home there in bed too. The only thing I can think of is awwwww welcome to how the majority of America sees there kids. There are parents that work 2 jobs and don’t even get to spend the weekends with the kids. Good reasons to want to quit your job but you know what you’re not the only 1 who does not see your kids grow up. He said coaches will understand fans probably won’t and the reporters wont they will try to make it into something its not but the facts are he is doing it for his family.
Stan is being given the opportunity to bow out gracefully and he is doing it the right way. There could be a lot messier ways to end a coaching stint.
I wonder how the Heat will respond to Riley. Will the transition cost them a few key games that will haunt them later?
only 'some' things? name 1 thing that work is more important than...
Here is my question.....He has always been a coach at some level. Even as an Asst. Coach you still go on all the trips and are without your family during that time.Why now is that an issue?
he is missing his kids growing up. he said at one home game he waved up to his kid in the family section and said to himself i should be up there with him. i guess he is having his midlife crisis or something along those lines he isnt seeing enough of his kids he is gonna die alone and afraid i dont know but he did say he loved coaching and that he would even coach high school because he could be at home everynight with his family
he is still with the heat at some level they made it clear he was still a part of the heat they just didnt say what part he said he is going to watch alot of game film and pass along whatever he felt that would help the team.
i dont really see him being forced out if they are going to keep him on the payroll its not a buyout or anything so for him to stay around doesnt sound like a force out deal to me. he is a good enough coach to go elsewhere.
heat will be better
this article is basicaly saying that the heat will be better under riley i dont see how. imo van gundy was a good coach who turned the team around and had them going inthe right direction. sure some of it might have been under the influence of riley but every coach has his own gameplan and after winning with la riley has not shown he can do it again.
the heat will go as far as shaqs tired legs will take them no further
first they need to mesh all the new players, and the players who alrteady knew stan's system have to change to riley's system way too many changes is how i see it. i'm glad i'm not a HEAT fan.
only thing they said right was that even with riley heat won't be better than detroit . it's about time other people have been starting to figure that out.
Van Gundy's Explanation is Just PR
I'm with those who think that Van Gundy's explanation was just so much p.r. Riley, I think, wanted to take over because he believed he could do a better job with this team, and because Shaq's age makes it imperative that they make their finals run this year. Van Gundy was on a short leash anyway after the loss to the Pistons, and the slow start this year mae the decision easy for Riley. The "need more time with my kids" explanation is just a graceful way for both Riley and Van Gundy to sugarcoat a firing. Van Gundy owes his first coaching job to Riley and does not want to burn any bridges by expressing his true feelings.
I think Riley threatened his kids.
I understand it is very hard to be away from your family. I have been a Pastor since I was 20. However, even though I was a Pastor I would also preach Monday-Friday revivals so I didn't have to miss my church and my family could go with me. Last year my daughter turned 5 and started school and could no longer go with me, so I am now very selective in the ones that I will accept. I think this had more to do with what his family was going through with Shaq and PR stabbing him in the back.
ESPN has a great article which speaks of the true PR. He has not won a title in almost 20 years. He got put out of the playoffs 4 of his last 6 years in the FIRST ROUND by lower seeded teams.
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