Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by doublead, Jan 28, 2008.
I'm so glad we passed on Greg Oden! ...oh, wait ughhh, nevermind.
someone needs to post a youtube video of that pass by stuckey to prince for the 3, that was ridiculous...
15 points on 50% FG, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 0 turnovers
The key thing for him tonight might have been his adjustment after picking up 2 quick fouls in the first quarter. He adjusted well and played good D the rest of the way, and he ended up with only 3 fouls for the whole game. Just being able to stay on the floor was a big factor in how aggressive he was able to be on offense.
Pretty gutsy move by Flip to leave him out there during crunch time and not go with Hunter. I thought for sure Hunter was coming in.
Well, he didn't really make any bad plays in the 4th. Probably 2nd to only Dice (who was insane) for 4th quarter MVP. Having 0 TO's and 6 assists in a tightly contested 2nd round playoff elimination game is extremely impressive for anyone, much less a rookie who's still learning the ins and outs of the position.
You are right though. I kept glancing over at the bench, thinking Flip would play it conservative and scared. Have to give Flip credit for not going away from what was working just because Rodney's a rookie.
Interesting reactions here: flip has given to stuck many minutes so he trusts him. Replace him with Hunter - that thought did not come to my mind during 4th Q . And flip had said previously that hunter will not play as much as he did in game 4.
I was more worried when Arvis and Err-man were there.
Remember Stuckey had 5 fouls in game 4, otherwise I am guessing he would have played alot more in that game and hunter would have played a bit less.... I think its pretty safe to say the pistons org has alot of trust in stuckey and We have another "piece" as Dumars says he likes to collect that we will be watching for years to come.
I'm hoping the new found confidence in Stucky spills over and gives Flip the inclination to see what AA can do. His defensive tenacity and size could help in the upcoming rounds. He needs to take over the back up role for Tay for at least 5 minutes a half.
Tay will not make it to the end at this pace. There still needs to be some minute management even though the regular season minutes were reduced. Let's be smart here and not lose track of our goal. Get AA and/or AJ in there to give Tay a break every now and then. They do not have to be superstars; they need to keep up with the oppositions bench. That's all.
Think about it
6 or 7 games @ 38 mins = 228 or 266 and 3 or 1 day off.
5 games @ 44 mins = 220 and 5 or 7 days off.
But you are right Tay needs more rest in the next series.
Back to Stuck. Wow, what composure down the stretch. Those 2 drives late to the tin were awesome, and being adequate from the stripe late in the 4th. Good D too, although I wasn't focusing on him.
I think the road is going to get tougher and that is why I think Tay needs the rest. Flip needs to get in the "habit" now of giving him at least a 5 minute rest in each half. If not he will run 44 minutes for 6-7 games til the end. My hope is that Flip had a gut feeling that the Boston-Cavs series was going to run long so he could play Tay the longer minutes expecting the rest.
I don't think he can make that assumption in the next round. I want Tay "as fresh as possible" for the finals along with the rest of the "horses". This is the delicate balance a head coach gets paid the "big bucks" to find!!
AA has shown the same poise and in some cases more then Stuck. I wish Flip would give him some of the same opportunites without having to be forced (injury). We can use all the pieces we can find to get to the goal.
Stuckey had a great game last night, and his +12 was second only to Prince. I love how he looks to attack the rim and is not afraid to take the hit, like on that drive where he went straight into Howard in the 4th.
I fully expect that AA will play if the Cavs make it to the ECF. I think at this point it's safe to say that Flip views Hayes as an offensive specialist and AA as a defensive specialist, and will conclude that we can afford to have a defensive specialist on the floor for stretches against the Cavs. I'm not sure what to think about his playing time should we face the Celtics.
I think we'll see prince on the bench a bit more when billiups is back in the lineup... prince is the point forward with him out... as great as stuckey is... flip still wants him to have a qb on the floor with more experience and that isn't hamilton.... with billiups back i think aa's mins can also go up a bit... were just not going to play two rookie guards in the playoffs at the same time...
One last thing... how can an allstar team have no guards on it? The rookie allstar 1st team is all forwards and a center.... talk about dumb....
For the rookie teams I believe they just vote for players regardless of position. Oh well. He'll probably be in the Rookie/Sophmore game next year!
Hopefully him vs. #29 whoever that may be. That would be neat.
i would think he's a lock.... would like to see aa get in, i can't thikn of 3 other guards i'd want him in there over him...
I really have to admit that JoeD has worked some magic in last year's draft. At first I was disappointed he didn't pick that C the Spurs took right after us, but AA and Stuckey both were excellent choices. No more euro-xperiments, keep playing proven college players. JoeD is good when it comes to drafting late and he got the most out of a worthless Darko. I wonder if anyone would trade Stuckey for Darko?
Stuckey has done better offensively as the year progressed. On the other hand, AA gotta get workin on his jumper. If he can consistently hit it (around 45%?) Flip will give him more time. But that still doesn't solve the backup SF issue. AA could play it in some situations, but Pistons need someone bigger.
Now, back to the thread, and I believe this has already been brought up, does Stuckey's emergency make Chauncey expendable sometime down the road in a couple of years?
I wonder if there is any discussion on the Magic forums about how good Stuckey looks and what a waste Darko and Arroyo were?
Would they have drafted Stuckey if they had that pick? Thats the question. Having a pick is fine, but turning it into something of value is totally different.
That's a good point. They did draft Reece Gaines as a PG (#15 in 2003).
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