Ben is the NBA Gold standard for being undrafted and achieving glory. He did earn minutes with his first team, he earned them absolutely beating the crap out of Chris Webber and Juwan Howard in practice. So much so, that they asked the coach to play him. And Ben performed well enough in GT to become a key part of the Washington trade for Isaac Austin (thought to be a good move for Washington, turned out to be an immense mistake). Darko and Ben's paths to the NBA are so dissimilar. Let's NOT go there.