The Monroe-Drummond Tandem

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  1. Walter

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    Monroe is in his 3rd season, this summer will be extension time for him. What's he worth? I mean this is a real decision that has to be made, or we should look at moving him. If Joe can get him on an Al Horford like contract 5 years and $60M, cool, but I'm afraid he'll be looking for a Lopez or Hibbert type contract, 5 years and $75M. What would you do?
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    Greg Monroe isn't worth $10 million a year.
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    I agree, unless with Calderon coming in we see a marked improvement in Monroes game? He is not a good defender and I cant see paying a 1 way player that kinda money...I will sceptically withhold judgement until we get a few games with a real pg under the belt.
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    He doesn't leave his feet on D, which must help a bit.

    His Synergy numbers are nothing compared to Daye's though, so who knows how useful those are. I'm not worried about his D next to Drum. Monroe is a smart and fundamental defender, just not a shot blocker or very quick. Drum is a great defensive helper for anyone, but in close quarters, these guys should figure out how to get it done. Monroe does many things on defense better than Drummond at this point, so hopefully that rubs off on the young guy too.
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    He doesnt leave his feet and his opponent knows it, everyone that faces him in the post just turns and fires with little to no threat of being blocked. He really needs to work on his bill laimbeer swipe to get the ball before the opponent gets it above their head and out of his reach. I agree Drum will make him look better than he really is, but that is constantly leaving Drum open to fouls and taking him out of position for his man and rebounds..especially when help doesnt seem to rotate very fast when Drum leaves his man to assist.
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    Drum's been covering for Villanueva, Daye, and Bynum for 40+ games now. Covering for Monroe should be a piece of cake.
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    True enough, I just think hes gonna have his hands full covering for calderon as well. I think once they get some time together and Moose learns how to direct his man towards help...Our defence will defenitely improve.
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    I think that a reasonable, market value contract would look like Horford's. Although, with the new CBA, we might be able to get a better deal. If he wants a max deal, then we should move him.
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    Then you must be in favor of trading him. He's going to get a minimum of $12m/yr. He' gives you 16 & 9, and in the NBA that cost at least $12M/yr, irregardless of defense.
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    16 and 9 does not guarantee you 12 million. No cost is guaranteed.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he hits $10m, maybe a small plus, but beyond that it is anyones guess.
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    You know there is a new CBA right? Memphis didn't trade Rudy Gay because they really wanted Tayshaun Prince.

    The old salary structure is out the window. There are 5 or 8 elite players in the league, and everyone else is somewhat interchangeable after that.

    Also, if you gave a lot of 6'10" guys Monroe's minutes, you're get close to, if not meet 16/9.
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    I'm not saying you're wrong. He could even be a 20/10 guy, if he was on the right team. I'd rather have Love at that price tag than Moose. Irrespective or regardless of his defense.
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    Ok, I'll bite.

    Moose averages 32:34 and 15.7/9.1 this season. Among centers and PFs that average more than 30mpg, the following are the ones that hit 15/8 or better - only 13 of them in the league. I also listed their current salaries.

    LaMarcus Aldridge (20.7/8.9) - $13.5M
    David Lee (19.5/11.1) - $12.7M
    Al Horford (16.0/9.8) - $12M
    Zach Randolph (15.7/11.7) - $16.5M
    Dwight Howard (16.5/11.9) - $19.5M
    Kevin Love (18.3/14.0) - $13.7M
    Al Jefferson (17.2/9.5) - $15M
    Blake Griffin (18.5/8.6) - $7.2M (rising up to $17.3M next year!)
    DeMarcus Cousins (17.3/10.1) - $3.9M (rookie contract)
    Nikola Pekovic (16.0/8.7) - $4.8M (rookie contract)
    Carlos Boozer (15.8/9.7) - $15M
    Tim Duncan (17.5/9.8) - $9.6M (willingly took a pay cut)
    Josh Smith (16.8/8.4) - $13.2M

    Looking at that list $12M for what Moose is producing seems about right. If we sign him to $10M a year, it'll be decent deal. Anything lower than that is a steal.
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    What teams are out there that have significant cap room.Wizards, Cavs, Hawks, and Bobcats. That's are competition. May be Dan Gilbert offers Monroe the moon to stick it to the Pistons.
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    I agree. 12 seems market price. In the old CBA he was probably worth (gonna get offered) 15.

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