The walkoff - Untold story?

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    Terry Foster reveals some insight into the Bad Boys legendary walkoff against the Bulls. I've never ever seen or heard these details before.

    Jordan killed Pistons' style

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    So, what did Pippen said about Rodman's personal life? Can't be worse than now, rite?:stirthepot:
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    Pippen said he thought Rodman would look hot wearing a dress and ear rings.
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    And later Worm would go Bride at a book signing. [Blonde wig and white gown]. Later he would have a tryst with Madonna.
    Ahhh young love.
    Then some chick would marry him while he was passed out drunk. The marriage lasted a week.
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    I thought he was upset he couldn`t date any of Rodman`s girlfriends........
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    Interesting that they were all teammates later on, huh?
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    Laimbeer and Thomas are the only ones (at least in my perception) that still have bad feelings.
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    I'm glad Detroit walked off in 1991 the way they did. I hated the Bulls and I hated how they'd constantly complain about the Pistons playing physical basketball. I was more upset that Detroit lost to the Bulls than anyone else. I could deal with it if they lost to the Celtics that season (1990-91) but anybody but the Bulls.

    Why are people making such a huge issue off of grown men not shaking hands after a game? To me it's a tad "soft" considering the hatred between the two teams. Let me get this straight...? The Bulls hated the Pistons but wanted their respect? That's a dysfunctional relationship if I've ever seen one. Besides, in 1988-1990 I don't remember Detroit crying or even asking Chicago to shake their hands after a series? When Jordan would come up and extend his hand, the Pistons were very polite and shook hands, but it wasn't something Detroit needed, wanted or even desired.

    "Please shake our hands so we can feel good about ourselves?" That just shows how "weak" the Bulls were in those days. Isiah had to miss 34 games and Detroit still won 50 and wound up in the ECF... if Detroit would've won half of those 34 games they would've wound up 67-15 and dominated the East.

    By the way.... Why did Isiah need surgery to repair the tendons on his wrist?... What caused his injury?... You think the wise-guys had something to do with it? I mean there was a new contract between the NBA and NBC and Zeke was the only guy in the way of Jordan winning a title.... Hmmmm? Plus Thomas wasn't on the Olympic team? Come on! Jordan is full of crap! The man can't even give a straight answer nor keep his house in tact but he wants me to purchase what he's selling?
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    Great post Zekefan. I remember being totally tired of Jordan and his crying in those days.

    I'll even offer this perspective. The Bulls didn't beat the Pistons. The Pistons beat the Pistons. They didn't draft well and after the Aguirre trade didn't make any moves of significance. They got fat and content, and basically surrendured the title to the Bulls out of apathy.
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    Zeke and Jordan hated each other, and it was time for Jordan to be the darling of the NBA. Isiah gets tossed on the pile of discontent, along with the Piston's franchise. Sir Jordan ordered it........:gun1:
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    Did Jordan personally tear Zeke's ankle up?
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    Beautiful.

    Does anybody here believe this kind of crystalline, still-so-fresh-it's-quivering hatred will be spewed in 2023, when we look back on the current Pistons-Bulls series? No -- hell no. We will still be talking about 1991, and my 18-month-old son will grow up without even that shining star to orient his moral compass. God, it saddens me.
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    This sounds frightening actual, Roscoe!
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    I echo ZekeFan's sentiments. The '91 loss to the Bulls was the hardest loss for me, and it always will be. If it had been the Celtics or the Lakers I think it would have been easier to swallow, but I really hated the Bulls. I especially hated MJ and PJ and their incessant moaning in the media.

    Personally, I loved it when the team walked off the floor. A final act of spiteful defiance in the face of everyone that hated the Bad Boys.
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    When Laimbeer was doing the Pistons commentary I remember him talking about the walk off. Dude has no love for that Bulls team at all. He talked about how even though it was a rivalry it was an ON COURT rivalry, then the Bulls started talking alot of crap (to the media) attacking the PERSONAL character and Integrity of the Pistons. Laim was saying how that was an NBA no-no, and then went on to say how funny it was that if you look at that Bad Boys team not one player had any off the court issues what-so-ever (then or now), except Rodman, and that was after he left the Pistons.
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    We did lost Mahorn to expansion. It was a different time. Free Agency was not a viable option and the Pistons had awfull draft position.

    I actually can't believe people were bringing this up, it was a long time ago. I felt at the time that the protest part was due to the shreading they took at the hands of the refs. They changed the rules that series and the Pistons could not play their game.

    It was still no excuse for walking off like that. There were other ways to protest. Botton line - the message was not recieved and it made the franchise look bad.
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    The rivalry between those two teams at that time was heated and went beyond basketball for some. I don`t think Isaiah and MJ even exchange hellos, perhaps to this day.

    Max is right, walking off did put a black eye on the franchise but I loved it anyway. I probably would have did the same thing. Isn`t it funny how those same Bulls welcomed a former enemy - Dennis Rodman with open arms!!
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    I heard this bit during the series with a Chic reporter talking about that. Not only Rodman, they also had Sally on that 72 win team.

    If they brought up the walk off I wish they would also have brought up what happened that series. Jordan/Pippin running up the score, getting all the calls and laughing about it. Pippin also fabricated a story about Aguire challenging him to a fist fight in the parking lot which Aguire flatly denied.

    You can basically boil in down to MJ as to why things crossed the line competitive wise because we did not have the same issue with the Celts which was just as heated.
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    In contrast to the Celts and Lakers, that situation had many shades of gray. The league was compromising itself by throwing its resources behind Michael and telling the world he could do no wrong. That included suppressing stories of his gambling, while doing nothing to protect Zeke from similar charges in an Armen Keteian book that was ultimately discredited. Also, I remember a Jordan Saturday morning cartoon (the one with Gretzky and Bo Jackson) where they had to overcome the bullying and cheating of a goon basketball team based in Michigan. Think the league didn't have creative control of that? Or how about the way NBA announcers and videos avoided the pre-Jordan years, trying to pretend the Pistons championships never happened?

    The Bulls of Jordan, Pippen and Jackson were not a particularly honorable opponent, so the Pistons did what they did. Apologies aren't needed for some, and they don't help for others.
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    In a way the Pistons also set themselfs up to be victims. I know we all love the bad boys name but that did help to put the impression in people that they were a dirty team. The Celtics were just as bad back in the mid-80's behind McHale/Parish but they never went out and named themselfs the Boston Thug line or anything like that.

    Even after the bad boy demise Jordan always loved playing and beating the Pistons. He found great joy in running up the score whenever his team played what the Pistons had become. We did get some revenge during his 3rd comeback as a Wizard when the new Pistons ran up a perfect seasonal record against his team. I recall one game in which Michael Curry above all people shut him down.

    Its a different time now. This is not the same Bull or Piston team. No cheap shots or cheap insults in our last series with them and the Bulls displayed excellent sportsmanship at the end. When and if the Bulls ever catch us then I expect the same from our current team.

    To me its unfortunate that some media clowns brought this up. I knew someone would for the cheap attention but it should have been left alone.

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