Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by mikhail1973, Jul 13, 2010.
Good Job LaDre...Darth forgot about the Ladies...
Oops. Forgot them.That was probably the biggest loss of all.
I can't believe I forgot the Detroit Vipers too. I was a big supporter of them.
But still, if the Pistons are lost that would be BY FAR the greatest loss of all.
Karen Davidson addressed the future of the Pistons in January when it was reported that she was considering a sale.
“I personally couldn’t imagine that the team would move out of here,” she said. “I don’t know anybody who would build an arena that could compare to this one or a municipality that would build an arena for an owner in today’s business climate.
“It doesn’t seem possible. There’s bigger things that need to be built by cities and municipalities.”
Rest assured, the lawyers know the value of the Palace and this is half the market of the team. The question might be: can the Pistons become separated?
Yea...the Romans used to tell the christians that the Lions were full before they sent them out to the arena floor.
The difference is...people actually GO to see the Lions and Tigers.
I may have to eat my words and actually continue watching them.
^^ What he said.
Why not embrace these ladies who were one of the most dominant teams in the league instead of dissing them at every opportunity?
Shock averaged >9000 per game while they were here. WNBA may not draw large crowds, but there were quite a few fans in Michigan.
In case anyone's interested, they are averaging about 4600 in Tulsa.
With only Kara Braxton and Alexis Hornbuckle moving from Detroit to Tulsa, they have won only 4 of 21 games... Lets hope they didn't take those three championship banners with them.
We aren;t moving and there's several reasons why:
1. Vegas is not, I repeat, not a sports town.
2. Vegas' economy is in worse shape than Detroit's (Shock!)
3. Detroit has a huge media market.
4. Even though we were crap, we were in the top ten for attendance last season. One spot ahead of the Celtics and one spot behind the Lakers.
5. Stern would be incredibly stupid to let the Pistons move. We're one of the most valuable teams around.
6. There's a huge pie set up around the Pistons. Aside from the Palace, there's Pine Knob and Meadowbrook. Two summer venues that do reasonably well.
7. Teams that move tend to have arena problems. We don't.
If we sell to anyone, I don't want it to be Illitch. Hockey's his main love and he's pathological about keeping teams in downtown Detroit (Parking sucks at Joe Louis and Comerica). Plus, look at the Tigers under his ownership. I don't want that. And his pizza sucks.
As for the Shock, I worked at the Palace and those games for attendance sucked. Very few people came and half the time we'd be standing around talking about what our vacation plans were for the summer or labor day were. Shock games were great to make some extra cash but attendance for those games was bad.
In short, calm down, enjoy the summer.
Great point. Pistons led the league in attendance 6 seasons within the past 10 years. The other 4 seasons we were 22nd (2001), 11th (2002), 2nd (2007) and 8th (2010).
Staying in the top 10 in the attendance this year will be in jeopardy if they struggle under .500 the first two months and cannot get out of the cellar for the whole season. How many season ticket holders have renewed for the 2010-11 season so far.....
Pat Caputo: Pistons aren't going anywhere. Here's why... - The Oakland Press Sports: The best place for news in and around Oakland County
I'm not trying to pick on them...but the fact of the matter is, the WNBA is not interesting enough for most people to go and see. If I don't like Jay Z's music, I'm not going to go buy his album just because he's the most popular (i.e. "winning"). I don't have an interest in listening to it.
The Lions and Tigers still generate more money because more people are interested in watching them play. It's just a fact. True, I say everything with a hint of sarcasm, but people just don't generally care for the WNBA in comparison to those other "losers."
I'm out of area, and would remain a "Pistons" fan, wherever they'd relocate, but it would be weird and a bit upsetting if they moved. Hopefully, there's no real chance of that - but it sure would be nice if Michigan could reinvent its economy.
The city is suspiciously quite from the major news outlets. I don't take much comfort from Pat Caputo, who is the senior sports reporter and a columnist for The Oakland Press. However, I admire rational justifications.
The longer the process takes in new ownership, the more compromising ownership becomes. Just saying.
Seattle is two spots below Detroit on the Media Market list, and ahead of 16 cities with NBA teams. Still, no basketball here. I don't think local media market is as important as people think. With games televised nationally on TNT and ESPN, and for a fee via NBA LeaguePass, the local market just doesn't have the pull.
For the last 3 years the Sonics were here, there was no local TV or radio coverage. You could watch the games on cable via FoxSports Seattle, but that was it.
Look at this list. Miami is below Seattle, Detroit, and Tampa.
DMA Rankings - US TV Households by Market
Problem with Seattle is they still have to build that new stadium.
Caputo has a point in that Michigan may be hurting but its not like the rest of the country is doing great
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