Thoughts on Tony Mitchell?

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  1. Nemo

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    Sheed on draft night: " with the First pick in the 2013 NBA draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers select...aw no way. Eh! Give this back and tell then they need to try harder."
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    Never had a season averaging over 10 points per game. Had a string of about 5 great seasons of defense and rebounding. I don't think that's enough.
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    P99, I hear you. But remember the the man was always trying to hold Sheed down.
    But Sheed on many levels is a roll model. He puts family first, he takes care of his kids. He doesn't go to jail, though the refs could make a case against him. I think he could coach big men. He could cost us a few tech-fouls but that's the intensity we need.
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    Those hall of fame calculators are garbage.

    Ben Wallace gets in being the first undrafted player to record a trillion rebounds. First undrafted player to have a 15+ yr career in the nba.

    Rasheed Wallace would get in by being one of the most recognised and loved players in the NBA for 15 years. He won't get in because he did a lot of stupid things.
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    Wallace ranks 30th on the career rebound list. Players ranked above him that are not in the Hall of Fame:

    Kevin Garnett
    Tim Duncan
    Shaq
    Buck Williams
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Paul Silas
    Charles Oakley
    Kevin Willis
    Bill Bridges
    Jack Sikma

    Wallace ranks 58th in rebounds per game. Guys ahead of him that are not in the Hall of Fame:

    Dwight Howard
    Bill Bridges
    Walter Dukes
    Tim Duncan
    Red Kerr
    Shaq
    Swen Nater
    Elmore Smith
    Kevin Garnett
    Ray Scott
    Zelmo Beatty
    Happy Hairston
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Clyde Lee
    Buck Williams
    Carlos Boozer
    Emeka Okafor
    Paul Silas
    Larry Foust
    David Lee
    George McGinnis
    Chris Webber
    Jack Sikma
    Bill Laimbeer
    Dan Roundfield
    Sam Lacey
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    And how many of those guys were undrafted?
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    I highly doubt the HOF selection committee cares whether a guy was drafted or not. They look at the person's contributions to the game.
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    Those guys aren't in the hall of fame YET.
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    All 3 of these guys have won titles, but 2 are still active and the 3rd just retired.

    I am not saying Sheed should be in the HOF, he's burned a lot of bridges, but Ben Wallace is worthy of some consideration. 4x DPOY.

    Also, I think Ben got screwed on the Finals MVP thing. I don't think Billups was the run away clear choice there.
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    Yea, those 3 guys are obviously headed to the Hall. Mutombo won 4x DPOY. Should he be in the HOF?
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    The guy is a basketball hero because he had to fight for every second he got on that court. He was an NBA champion and possibly one of the best defenders to play the game. If Rasheed doesn't make it, thats fine. If Ben doesn't make it, then the process is not right.

    Drafting people to the hall of fame isn't about big stats blah blah. Its about improving the image of basketball or advancing the game. Ben Wallace did both.
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    His defense was legendary. Good chance he gets in. humans vote, which favors him.
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    I couldn't disagree with you more. Rasheed will be in the hall of fame.

    You measuring him against Wilt Chamberlain, and calling Sheed to task for not being serious? Seriously? Wilt said he slept with 20,000 women. Do the math, that doesn't leave a lot of time for basketball drills.

    Rasheed brought a championship. Even more, for a few years, he brought an identity, filled with swagger heart to the Going to Work team. He made going to work fun. He made grinding it out cool.

    In case you forgot, check out the first two minutes of this video:

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    I will end you. :cheeky-smiley-012:
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    Bizzaro Linwood, amirite?
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