Discussion in 'Tigers and Baseball' started by LA Dre, Jan 17, 2012.
10 road games in 10 days. Tough. Gotta man up tigers.
Tigers don't want to win this..........
Angels, White Sox, and Cleveland on the road...........
Too inconsistent this year...........
Sox will take 3 of 4 in Chicago...........
We'll be 4 back after visit to Cleveland.
Sox fans are pessemistic too. We've had their number so far.
You're right on..............what's sad to me is that our team shoulda won 90 with ease.............don't think they'll win more than 86 now........
Six runs in the last four games,, (four game slide).....Cabrera has fallen into funk since they left Comerica. Tiger batters striking out or grounding into double plays... If they lose the next couple of games to the Sox , can we say this one might be over?
The only saving grace is the Sox are losing as much as we are, (both 4-6 the last 10) but they have the upper hand with the three game lead with 22 games to go. (11 on the road and 11 at home for the Tigers).
Tonight: Fister (8-8) vs. Peavy (10-10)
Tomorrow: Scherzer (15-6) vs. Floyd (9-6)
Thursday: Verlander (13-8) vs. Sale (16-6)
A sweep would be nice, although winning 2 of 3 would keep us close.
If the Tigers lose 2 or more of the next 3, it could get ugly.
I trust that our starting pitching will keep it close, but I have lost confidence in the team scoring runs....They have lost six of their last seven and did not score more than 2 runs in any of the six losses....its already getting ugly...
There's no reason for this division to be this close.
Breaking News...Tigers outslug the Sox and finally break the 2 run barrier and win a game. (5-3). Yep the Sox got the magic number of 3 runs and led the Tigers 2-0 thru the end of four...but the Tigers broke through with two dingers in the 5th by AJax and Miggy to go up 3-2.
We all knew that 3 runs weren't enough based on the Tigers run production this month, so the more the better!!! They added two in the 8th and that still didn't seem enough to secure the victory.. When Cabrera (second in the AL in RBI behind Hamilton), came up to bat with the bases loaded in the 8th and ready to blow the game open and you know what was suppose to happen...yep Cabrera grounds into his ML league leading double play (#27) and the Tigers sweat out the bottom of the 8 and 9th innings to break a 4 game losing streak and climb back within 2 games of the Sox.
Other than giving up two home runs in the first three innings, those turned out to be the only 2 hits Fister gave up as the pitching once again did it's thing hoping the Tiger bats would wake up. Despite leaving 10 men on base and seeing Fielder and Young go a combined 0-10 with six strikeouts, the Tigers pull out the victory Leyland does away with the experimental lineups and goes with the A team.....in other words, no Raburn, Worth, Kelly or Santiago pretenders out there in the line up.
If they get 4 of 5 runs in the next two games, they tie this thing up again....
I'm really enjoying the fact that we actually have a baseball team in the hunt in September. It really sucks when your team is out of it.
I wasn't that confident in the 2006 pitchers with Kenny Rodgers at 41 years old and Jeremy Bonderman leading the team in innings with an above 4.00 ERA.
That 2006 team had a total ERA of 3.84. Our team this year is at 3.86 and is trending downward as they have been on a tear since the all-star break. The 2006 pitchers were too old and too young. This year, we have a bunch of guys in their primes.
The hitting was about on par with this year's hitting. If you take the 2006 Tigers and sort them by plate appearance, the top 9 hitters had a combined .279 average. This year's Tigers (with Ofante subbed into the top 9) have a .280 average.
Using the same comparison, they had a .337 OBP to a .342 for this year's team.
Their slugging was higher at .466 vs .452. They hit more HR's and struck out way more.
One amazing thing that I just noticed is that Verlander now has 98 more strikeouts in his career than hits allowed.
Scherzer also is a member of that elite club with 52 more K's than H's allowed.
Those are some dangerous pitchers.
Huge win tonight. Our 2 aces are coming up in the next two. I should make my way down to the cell.
Speaking of Miggy...Ok I was, he blew his chance in the Angels series to move far ahead of Mile Trout in the MVP race getting only 2 hits and striking about 5 times during that series.
Meanwhile, Trout got his team going with a lead off HR in two of the games and made two spectacular catches in the field robbing the Tigers of much needed run production...Plus his team won six straight games to get back into wild card contention while the Tigers were losing 4 in row.
To win the MVP, Cabrera is going to need to win at least two of the three of the triple crown categories or win it outright and the Tigers will need to win the division over the next 20 games. Trout leads the league in 13 of 44 WAR or nondescript categories in the AL and 9 in the ML...and has only played in 119 games this year compared to Miggys 140....Also his league leading 45 stolen bases is only 4 behind the Tigers team total of 49..
2012 American League Batting Leaders - Baseball-Reference.com
Man, the Tigers could have scored a dozen runs last night. Thank goodness they actually got a couple of clutch hits. These games are stressful. Whether you like Leyland or not, he is going to age another 10 years just over the next 3 weeks.
More bunting last night in that game than I've seen in quite a while. The bunt by Omar was ridiculous. 1st and 2nd with nobody out and he was showing bunt the entire at bat (so the entire infield was in bunt position). Then he drops it on the exact blade of grass that he needed to and beat out the throw comfortably.
Sox got out of some jams for sure. Striking out Fielder at least 3 times was a big part of that (and getting Miggy to ground into a DP).
The Sox announcers are in awe of Cabrera overall though. Everytime he is at the plate they gush about how he's the smartest hitter in baseball and "all he does is hit home runs to beat the Sox." They are some serious homers, so it gives me even more appreciation for how good the guy is.
The funniest thing I've seen all summer was watching Youkilus try to bunt. The guy has ZERO sacrifice bunts in his entire career. There was NO POSSIBLE WAY that was going to work out for the White Sox. I'm still laughing.
The way he holds the bat should be considered a bunt attempt even if he doesn't move.
Tigers explode for 8 runs, and then have to hold on to win by two as the relief pitching gives up five runs in the last two innings. Scherzer gets his 16th victory of the season, and struck out seven....The 7K's stopped his streak of at least 8 strikeouts per game which had reached 10 games.
Papa Grande got his 30th save....but once again he made Leyland mustache curl as he gave up two hits and a run.
Fielder broke an 0-18 slump with a 3 run blast in the sixth inning and Miggy went 3-5 knocking in only one run, as once again he contributed a grounded-into-a-double play in the 8th inning to increase ML league to 28... All of the starters got at least one hit.
In tomorrow nights game, the Tigers need to score first and give JV a cushion so that he can settle down and cruise to the victory.
Man has Scherzer come on strong. Dude is pretty much the best pitcher in baseball lately.
In the second half of the season, he's 8-1 with an ERA under 2.70. He has struck out 70 batters since his last loss.
Batters are batting .118 against him when his pitch count is at 100 or higher (very Verlander-like)
Great win. Valverde has now allowed 4 runs in his last 14 innings/ appearances. No more than 1 run allowed in any game within this stretch. I'll take that. The pitch to end the game tonight was a thing of beauty.
Pre all-star game ERA: 4.11
Post all-star game ERA: 2.61
Our closer is back.
Our closer was sent to well too many times...three times in three days...papa didn't have it tonight....got to have a secondary closer when your Ace is "tired"......
Agreed and this loss is probably on Leyland. Loss is also a big blow to Cabrera's MVP chances IMO. If the lead stands up, it was his Jack Tripper that wins it. I figure if the Tigers don't get into the playoffs, Miggy doesn't win the MVP either. Writers would love to give it to Hamilton because he has overcome so much, blah blah, blah
LOL. Leyland blows a lot of games, but he was in the locker room during this collapse.
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