Tigers Tigers 2012

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    funny
    hey we're due some luck.
    I'd perfer we ice these scrappers before they catch momentum.
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    They got to third base on Coke and all they got was a kiss from Al.
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    They got to third base on Coke and all they got was a kiss from Al.
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    Does Sanchez ever get any run support? Any other team with our so called batting potency would have probably scored at least 3 or 4 runs to beat these guys.

    You're not going to win many games hitting only four singles, striking out 11 times and grounding out into two double plays. The Tigers got four singles to the out field and four fly outs...the rest were either whiffs or ground outs. Laird, Jackson and Infante struck out 7 times.

    Leyland is trying to play the percentages with the lefty vs the righty and it has not panned out as Garcia and Laird have started two games and not had a hit yet in this series. Berry only plays well when he is in the line-up and always flames out on PH ops. Avila, you leave himin there long enough, he will get you a key hit.

    Jackson is having a horrible October and Fielder was robbed of at least two hits tonight and maybe a third if the shortstop had not been playing the slight shift on him.

    Infante struck out three times and grounded into a double play. Wonder if we need to move him down the lineup for the next game and put Berry in the second spot....?

    Either way, they are going to need a couple of long balls to get game 4......I know JV will pitch game five, but we don't want to go there....:nailbiting:
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    Nasty stuff from Anderson.

    Sanchez looked so shaky early and then he just hit his groove. Would be interesting if we resign him this off season.
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    You have to wonder if Fielders home run in the second inning had not been snatched back that it would that have inspired the rest of the Tiger batters to hit like they wanted the sweep instead laying down to Anderson. The catch surely inspired the rest of the A's fielders to step up play superb defense.
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    That catch was SICK.
    Covelli Loyce was a "cereal killer" on that one and kinda redeemed himself for dropping that ball in the previous game.
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    I really like Sanchez's style. He looked incredibly calm after the 1st inning and was very precise.

    Hopefully Scherzer isn't rusty and puts on a clinic tonight.
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    where were the bunts ?
    2-0 no nonsence loss.
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    I agree. He relies on his accuracy and the home plate umpire wasn't doing him any favors with pitches on the black. Sanchez could have easily blew up, but he kept his cool and gave the Tigers a chance to win.
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    What's happened to Valverde? Batting practice to A's as Tigers blow 2-run lead in the 9th inning. This is going to leave a mark. JV goes tomorrow, so hopefully they can win.
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    If the Tigers lose this series, Valverde and Leyland will be looking for new jobs next season....but not before the batting coach is fired.

    Another pitching gem by a starter wasted because of lack of key hits and shaky relief pitching......yeah we got the long ball from Fielder, but he gave that one back on that error at first base....

    I even had my champagne ready to sip and now it will probably stay chilled until new year's eve....The last thing I want to see is Coco Crisp drinking any bubbly.

    Right now the MVP of the series is either Crisp or Verlander depending on what occurs.

    The Tigers need 6 runs tomorrow and 120 pitches from Verlander. If the bats don't produce JV will not bring it home by himself...
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    If JV can't pitch the entire game, who do you bring in for a save situation? Leyland can't be loyal to Valverde tonight. Hopefully, JV can go 7 (or more) and you bring in Benoit and Al Al. Benoit ain't pitching great either. Al Al is the only guy down there I trust. Porcello could be a factor tonight.

    This is the kind of missed opportunity that can haunt a team for a while. Need to get the monkey off their backs tonight.
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    To quote the esteemed Rip Hamilton:

    "Like I always say, if it ain't rough - it ain't right."
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    JV needs to go 8 innings and have Al Al close it.
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    Very frustrating. Valverde's ERA is up from 2.50 or something like that last year to 4.00+ this year. He's just not a shut down closer like a lot of other teams have. Al might be that guy, but he just hasn't pitched enough this year to know. Benoit was great the first half of the year and then slumped afterward. Lately, he's been better, but it really hasn't "looked" solid. However you want to look at it, we have a major weakness in this department at the moment. Our biggest strength is our starting pitching as those guys just keep delivering game after game of dominant performances. Too bad Scherzer was a bit out of condition and ran out of gas early.

    A possible solution right now would be to lean on Porcello and/or Smyly since they are in the bullpen for the playoffs. I'll admit though that tossing Smyly into that game with the crowd revved up and guys on base might have been a little overwhelming for him.

    Leyland used this same formula in game 1 and it worked out great, so it's not like it was idiotic. It's just that his options are limited and he's resistant to putting guys in situations that they haven't been in throughout the year when the pressure will be at it's highest.

    The good news is that we have the best pitcher in baseball on the mound tonight and he can go up to 150 pitches if we need him to. Cabrera and Fielder appear to be relaxed and seeing the pitches well. Fielder's error was disappointing, but I thought Cabrera was solid at 3rd.

    I also am a little bummed that Garcia didn't field that rushed ball cleanly so that we could have seen a canon to home plate.
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    Was there any doubt the Tigers had an ace up their sleeve with JV pitching, and no not the other JV that blows saves..

    The only question was would the Tigers 2-0 lead hold and the longer Verlander pitched, the more we knew that the two runs was probably all they needed.

    The Tigers got a man on second in the first two innings and failed to bring him home. Finally after the AJ knocked in the first run and then scored the second on the passed ball, in the third, the A's already looked defeated. The four runs scored in the 7th was just icing on the cake.

    122 pitches, 11 K's, 1 BB, 0 ER. There was no way Leyland was going to put anybody else in there to pitch in the 8th or 9th even if Verlander had given up five runs in the bottom of the 9th.

    ALDS record 22 strikeouts for Verlander......and by the way A's semi slugger Josh Reddick was 2-20 in the series with one HR and 12 strikeouts:israel:
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    Most stress free final game in a playoff series imaginable. The A's defense really let them down as well. We were running all over the base paths and cashing in on their mistakes.

    By the way, our starting pitchers just gave up 5 earned runs in 5 playoff games (34.2 innings). That is nasty. 1.32 ERA. Bullpen gave up 5 ER in 9.0 innings. Batters hit for .130 against JV.

    Looking ahead to our pitching rotation... gotta find a way to fit JV in twice if possible. The 2-3-2 format makes it possible for us:

    10/12- rest
    10/13- game 1 (Fister w/ 5 days off)
    10/14- game 2 (Sanchez w/ 4 days off)
    10/15- rest
    10/16- game 3 (Verlander w/ 4 full days of rest)
    10/17- game 4 (Scherzer w/ 6 full days of rest)
    10/18- game 5 (Fister w/ 4 days off)
    10/19- rest
    10/20- game 6 (Sanchez w/ 5 days off)
    10/21- game 7 (Verlander w/ 4 days off)

    Unfortunately, Scherzer was pushed out a game in round 1 and now would be the only pitcher who wouldn't be able to go 2 games next round. It would set him up great for the WS though if we should be so fortunate.

    I trust all 4 of our starters and don't think that it makes a great difference. But the above scenario is meant to show how things have to work to fit in JV twice. The catch is that JV has to swap with Scherzer in game 4.
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    I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT !!!
    up 3-1 and Leyland can't find 3 outs.
    A's are just getting more confident with their $50M (?) payroll.
    Justin can go 175 pitches I don't see him coming out. Not if he has a lead anyway.
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