Tigers TIGERS 2014 THREAD

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  1. TheeTFD

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    This is an old art. doesn't make a lot of since throughout but with financing being the crux, you can ponder.

    The answer there is easy: value. The longer a team gets to use the player, and the less the team has to pay that player, the higher the value is to a team trading for him. So the more they’d better pay up.

    With two years remaining before being eligible for free agency, Scherzer was worth more last winter than he would be this winter, even though he is coming off the best year of his career.

    So for those discussing why it might make sense for the Tigers to trade a starting pitcher, maybe we’re all discussing the wrong one. Maybe we should be talking about trading Doug Fister or Rick Porcello? Hey, what about a deal involving Drew Smyly?

    Both Fister and Porcello have two years remaining before they can declare free agency. You want to talk about a deal -- Smyly won’t be a free agent until after 2018.

    By process of elimination -- Porcello’s return probably wouldn’t be great, and the Tigers should be hoping to acquire a player like Smyly rather than trading him -- that leaves us with Fister.

    If you’re going to create a trade narrative around the Tigers, that’s the way to do it.

    The similarities between Scherzer a season ago and Fister now are remarkable.


    Salary: Scherzer was paid $6.7 million in 2013; the 2014 salary for the arbitration-eligible Fister, projected by MLB Trade Rumors, will be $6.9 million.



    From The Detroit News: It makes more sense to trade high-value Doug Fister than Max Scherzer | The Detroit News
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    I think Fister can get or stay better than Porcello but they're equal as far as I can see. Fister's #s were much better but he was hard luck with offensive help.
    From one season to the next any of these guys can fall off the map.
    So even starting Smyly is a good idea. Maybe he turns the corner.
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    Sometimes a Chicken McNugget...
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    This move is either going to be a total bomb or something brilliant. Time will tell.
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    We got a don kelly + an inexperienced relief pitcher with average stuff + a prospect who is 2 to 3 years from the big leagues. That was the best offer we could find for Doug Fister? Hard to believe. Very confusing.
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    Are you making fun of him ?
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    Dom is forming bonds.
    Something tells me that lefty has power Dom covets.
    Fister hits batters. And misses parts of the season with injuries.
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    The new guy is about to miss two seasons at least. This isn't a win now move at all... unless it's a salary dump.
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    Wow, Tigers pretty active this off-season. Zeroing in on Nathan now.
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    I don't think Fister was as good as many do.
    One move leads to another, leads to another, leads ....
    I expect Coke, Worth, and Kelly will all be gone before the season starts. Also Santiago.

    Bull pen:

    Nathan
    Rondon
    Al Al
    Krol
    others
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    I think they just re-signed Kelly.
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    He's 39?! What are the odds of him making it to the playoffs injury free?
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    Both Kelly and Coke have re-signed. However, they can be released during Spring training
    before the season begins, and the Tigers only owe them a small portion of their salaries.
    I think they both will be released.

    Nathan is 39, but they don't call him "horse" for nothing. He shows not signs yet of slowing down.
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    IT basically comes down to this: The Tigers acquired Joe Nathan, Ian Kinsler, a player to be named later and 3 players for Doug Fister and Prince Fielder. The Tigers needed a closer-they got it. They needed to get rid of Fielder to make room for Castellanos-they did it. Dont know what more people want when this is what they asked for.
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    They could have filled those needs AND kept Fister.

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