Discussion in 'Football, Baseball, and Hockey' started by TheeTFD, Oct 24, 2013.
It gonna be a long road back
i blame the loss on Nathan's lousy season!! Uehura was in and out of there so fast last night that he shouldnt have even gotten paid! Also, did u seen the fans filing out of the park last night after Papi's home run? THATS when u know u have a lights out closer on the other team.
111k's to 6 walks for Euhura over the past year! That's un human.
For his MLB career, here is what he has done:
312 innings pitched
1189 batters faced
368 strike outs
1 hit batter
4 wild pitches
He hits 1 batter per 1,189 faced??? And only 4 wild pitches... ever.
For perspective, Verlander has walked 35 batters this season already, he has beaned 65 batters in his career and has thrown 62 wild pitches.
Huston Street anyone?
What can Detroit Tigers do at closer? Maybe trade for Huston Street? | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
If Verlander just lobbed it up there at 88 like Iuehara, his stats might look better??
He and the long ball are what killed the Tigers in the ALCS last year. We almost got through the whole first two series of this seasons regular season match ups without having to face Uehara and avoiding the wrath of Big Papi's big bat, but both were there in the end to steal a possible season in-process sweep.
One thing Kruk did astutely point out is the different approach Boston and Detroit take to hitting. Lackey lasted almost the entire game because the Tigers go in there hacking with zero plate discipline. Boston hitters take a ton of pitches to get to the Tigers' bully, which they know is completely inconsistent.
If Nathan doesn't keep the ball down, he's toast. He doesn't have electric stuff anymore. He reminds me of Todd Jones. Jones was nothing special, but if he kept the ball down, he was OK.
Hope Suarez is the real deal because I don't think Iglesias will ever hit above .260 consistently.
LAST TEN GAMES THEY'VE PLAYED:
KINSLER 6 /43.... .143 AVG/ 2 HR / 5 RBI
AVILA 6/32 .188/ 0 HR / 1 RBI
JACKSON 9/33(TAKE OUT 3/3 VS BOSTON, 6/30 .200 AVG) 0 HR/ 1 RBI
DAVIS 6/29 .207 / 1 /2
HUNTER 7/36 .194/ 1 / 3
KELLY 5/26 .192/ 0//1
CASTELLANOS .417 BUT ONLY 1 HR/RBI
CABRERA .361/ 4 / ONLY 6 RBI
VIC MARTINEZ .270/ 3 / LEADS WITH 9 RBI
CHISENHALL of cleveland had 3 hr and 9 rbi in one game !!
You are right zoo..other teams have gotten to our bull pen early and often because of their discipline of being patient. Our pitchers are up to 75 pitches by 4th and 5th inning and seem to lose in by sixth. We become predictable then with AA, Joba and Nathan pitching the last three innings trying to hold on and then throwing Krol, Coke and Reed when it appears all is lost......
The Tiger batter have had no plate discipline the past four years, but still managed to be among the leaders in BA and on base percentage. Just imagine if we did??
My vision for the future would be: Travis at 2B, Iglesias at SS, Castellaneos at 3B, Kinsler in LF, Derek Hill in CF, and Suarez in RF (he has the arm for that). Relief pitching is a crap shoot. Rondon, Knebel, and several good looking prospects in the minors. Plus trades. Street???
Gotta mix it up. It's OK to swing at a first-pitch fastball (as an element of surprise) once in a while. But these guys are pretty eager up there.
It's too bad rondon is out. Could really have used him. No team avoids losing players however.
The other reliever we tend to forget about is Joel Hanrahan. He was a pretty solid closer for the Pirates a couple of years ago. I imagine he will be back in the next week or two.
Is his return that soon? I was thinking late season. That would be great.
Saw that we are tied with houston for highest bullpen era. That's horrible after getting krol, joba, and nathan.
Losing rondon, smyly, and benoit has hurt.
Justin Verlander < Joe Sparma
Man, he bad.
Where's JL when we need him? Obviously Verlander misses him..............
Lucrative night for JV last night. Looking at his $20 million contract and assuming he pitches 220 innings this season (going up to $28 M 2015-2019), he makes about $90,000 per inning. So, here is his line from last night:
IP H R ER BB SO $ Earned
5.2 8 7 7 4 6 $514,545
I'm glad they are doing this now and not after the Allstar break. They suck asss now but should man up slowly.
During the last four years they pretty much have not gotten off the snide until after the all star break. It's just we saw fools gold with the 27-12 start and thought that Brad Ausmus was the greatest manager since ......Sparky Anderson and since mid May he has been a regular Alan Trammel.........
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