I was going to leave this for the Spurs/Jazz thread but, damn that. This is enough to warrant it's own discussion. There is NO video footage in existence of Bill Laimbeer purposing making plays that have or could potentially injure a player long or short term (hard fouls excluded) - think Karate kick footage from the Youtube video on Bowen. Yet, lo and behold, everyone's favorite clean boy, Grant Hill felt the need on national TV to shy away from calling Bowen a "dirty" player. However, he was also moved to toss in this little gem: "Now, Bill Laimbeer, HE was a dirty player." I'm saying it right now and I don't care who knows.... F*** Grant Hill and I hope Dumars never ONCE entertains the thought of bringing this jackass back to DET to finish his "illustrious" career.