It's funny how U of M fans always complain about two things when they lose 1. MSU hates us. 2. Fire Lloyd Carr. It's always something. Wonder if you read all the crap U of M players and fans were talking last week. Why is it that when U of M wins it's because of Manningham, Henne, and Hart...but when they lose it is all Lloyd's fault? Methinks U of M is obsessed too..with making excuses.