The team is just bad right now. Rip and Tay may need time but the problem is a lack of a real NBA front line. David Lee isn't the first big this season to tear the Pistons apart. We knew that this would be a problem but the repurcussions is more than imagined. The team can't play good defense with a front line not there as a fortress. But while the personnel is not there to be a good defensive team, there is not as much of an excuse for the poor offense. There is no concept on offense. No, don't throw the ball into the Piston bigs--how often has that worked this year??? Usually it is a turnover. And teams are playing a box zone against the Pistons so one guy driving into four won't work and or then dishing to one of the bigs who are not scorers. If they give you the open three better take it. Give guys some roles on offense. Gordon should be popping threes not Rip. And CV needs to work on his spot up three instead of all the fancy stuff. Watch other offenses--guys have their roles. Still, even the bad offense goes back to not having any big who can score right now. It is like playing with one hand and not the other.