vs Philadelphia 76ers Saturday January 8 7:30 pm

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  1. roscoe36

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    The Pistons return to the hardwood tonight to take on the scorching Sixers, in a game Greg Monroe says is a "must-win".

    I b3lieve in Greg!
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    Candidate for worst use of "must win" in history?

    I'd put this in the category of "might win and that would be nice, although it would marginally hurt our chances at the lottery, but it would be a temporary confidence booster for a team that is about to be dismantled through idiotic trades."
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    Tough schedule for Philly.
    They play us tonight and then the Packers tomorrow.
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    I'm sure that is what Monore meant when he said "must win".
  6. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    Monroe is showing how young he really is with these comments.

    It will take a borderline miracle for the weary Pistons to win this game seeing that they just payed on Tuesday.
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    Actually this is an important game for us. Philly is going in the right direction, they're a bad young team getting better, we're...... well, we're......oh heck I don't know. Tonights game will show us if we're a playoff bottom dweller or if we should increase the salaries of our college scouts. I still have hope that we can get the 7th seed in the playoffs.
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    I can't think of a reason why making the playoffs would be a good thing.
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    Monroe, Daye and CV need to play in a playoff atmosphere to get a clue of how tough it is to win in the playoffs. This isn't a draft where you're going to get a Derrick Rose like PG, there's no premiere Big in this draft either, also I have ZERO reason to believe that this org (especially with Joe at the helm) will draft and develop a young franchise player.
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    Personally, I'd rather draft a top 5 player and skip the 2011 playoffs over getting a #18 draft pick. We can get playoff experience next year. We're a long way off.
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    How convinced are you that we've found our center of the future in Greg Monroe?
    Take a look at draft history----> NBA Draft History | NBADraft.net

    Getting a high pick means NOTHING, the likelihood that you draft a role player, dud or bust is more likely than getting a franchise player.
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    Yea, but the higher you draft, the better your chance....
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    This is a "must-win" game.
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    Game goes into OT as Austin Daye buries a trey from the corner with 3.5 seconds left.
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    At the time of this post, Rodney Stuckey needed to sink two free-throws to put us up 3 in OT.

    Pistons win!
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    Pistons jump off to a 7 pt OT lead as Daye hits another trey and a dunk, and then G'mon hits a couple of FT....but then the Pistons got lackadaisical and just like that the score went from 106-99 to 110-109. The Pistons who had already missed 12 FT's in the game relied on 4 clutch FT's by Stuckey to pull it out the victory 112-109.

    It was two missed FT's by Sixers Lou Williams with 6 left that would have iced it for the Sixers that gave Daye a chance to tie it with the 3 ball in regulation.

    Daye and Monroe played great down the stretch and in OT. Give credit also to vets TMac and Tay who hit two tough clutch jumpers on crunch time to keep the Pistons within the three ball striking distance as they literally trailed the whole second half by 1-3 pts.

    Good win for the Saturday night home fans after playing some tough miserable games out west.
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    Good rotations used. Surprisingly - and welcomely - we find Monroe and Daye starting in OT.

    Daye was one of the heroes for the game - both hitting the 3 that tied the game up to send it to OT - and hitting a 3 to put us up to start OT. (As well as the next bucket to put us up 5, and earlier points in the 4th.).

    Of great significance - not to say anything negative about either player - coach went with neither one in crunch time. Neither Gordon nor Rip. Instead,the group that got us tied and into OT was Ben Wallace, TMAC, Tay, Daye, Stuckey. Then Monroe came on for Wallace to start the OT period. And then, miraculously, coach even made subs here and there trying to optimize the final result of the game.

    The unit that played down the stretch was not the same unit that played OT. Coach actually realized (about time) that he can make substitutions. If a unit is working - it does not mean that unit has to stay on the floor forever.

    Well, even though I am very glad we won this one - and now are just 2.5 games out of a playoff spot - got to mention why we almost lost this game. (Indeed, I am sure 99% watching was sure Philly had the game won when Williams stepped to the line needing just one ft to ice the game.) Not enough effort to get out to the shooter. Hey - sometimes you got to overplay the outside shot. You can't play off a team the whole game even if they are making outside shot after outside shot. And a time or two - one defender simply backed off before the primary defender caught up to the play. Philly took advantage of these lapses all nite long. Now, there was also a lot of times shots were challenged - and it got better in the 2nd half. Still, as a team, guys got to learn - use 100% force to catch up to the shooter. Anything on the order of lacksadaisical means the other team just keeps growing more confidence in their shots.

    I will point out Rip as one guy who challenged shots well often in this game. That was really his best contribution to this one.

    More good rotation stuff. Coach did not overplay CV. CV was not getting much done on offense - and he is a liability on defense. Wisely, coach went away from playing him quite so much in this game. (Brand made that one shot over CV that barely went in - making it a must for Daye's 3 moments later. That play was not that bad - CV did get a hand up to challenge the shot fairly well. Anyhow - foul trouble may have been why CV did not play that much in this one to some extent - but coach made the right decision to go with young energetic guys like Daye and Monroe who can defend rather than CV.)

    Other heros: Tay got a ton of rest, and for this excellent choice of resting Tay properly - got to see how good Tay could be coming down the stretch in this game - and helping us to get this thing tied up. Tay just kept abusing people on post ups. (Conversely - in OT - when he was more fatigued - he missed 2 ft's that allowed Philly a shot at going to a 2nd OT - if not winning it.)

    Minor thing. Monroe, if he had pulled the ball out after that one rebound - absolutely we could have run some more shot clock off when we were way up in OT. (Philly had not scored in like the first 4 minutes of OT.) However, considering this was a career game for Monroe - like 16 points and around about 12 rebounds, so what. Keep playing him - he shows signs of learning fast. And oh, thats right, coach played him in this one - big time.

    Stuckey nailed a couple of 3's early. Nothing really much from him after that despite playing a ton of minutes. He did make those 2 clutch ft's right at the end of OT to force Philly into that 3 point miss. Good to see him back - the important thing - we did not have to play Bynum - who would have been destroyed by the Philly guards. (Again, not that they were not making way too many uncontested shots as it was - just hate to see true ugliness out there.)

    TMAC helped in a whole lot of plays. He did not start - but ended up playing starters minutes, coming on very early in the 3rd quarter, and then staying out there right thru the end of OT. Just a lot of smart basketball from him.

    Except for the fact they had this game lost, it seemed for sure, hey, can't complain about much. Other than the fact Philly did make a ton of those shots - open or not it was good shooting by them- this game was like a fairy tale with a happy ending for the Pistons. Now they got to forget this game except for two things - build on what worked on the offense - and correct low % of challenged shots by the defense. A few wins - and the playoff are no dream - just something to expect come mid April just like tax day.

    This game featured no fireworks at all from the combo of Gordon and CV. I have not seen the boxscore, but it went something like this for our leading scorers - Tay, Monroe, Daye, maybe TMAC and Stuckey near tied for next. Monroe's scoring may have been the most impressive as so much of it came off his rebounding or plays not designed for him. (ok, so Philly is not that impressive on interior D - still, nice to see Monroe take advantage so often.)

    GO PISTONS!!!!!
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    I'm a long way from being convinced.

    Agree, but being right doesn't heal the wounds of the Fisher King.
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