Who for new Center?

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  1. explosivity

    explosivity First Round Draft Pick

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    In reading all of those posts and analyzing all of the scenarios our team is encountering right now, I have no idea how we are gonna seriously contend for a title next year. In saying that I feel that we will contend and be in the top 4 as far as the eastern conf. is concerned but will we have enough especially in the playoffs to get past a tough Chicago team, Wade and Shaq, and the NBA endorsed Lebroniers. Our 4 core players are still fantastic but I really feel that if we cannot get a center who can play solid on D, be a presence in the middle and give us some much needed pts in the paints, there is absolutely no reason to be overly optimistic. I honestliy believe that we need a major impact player in the center position, if we dont find a way to get that done than there is basically no reason to get our hopes up for another title run. We need an IMPACT center, a PENETRATING, smart PG, a consistent back-up shooting guard. I would lose delf, nazr, flip(although he is staying), lindsey(needs to retire, give him a front office job).

    I will for sure be here next year to support our squad with some fervor but I will definitely watch from a little afar as oppose to being semi-obssesed with this team. I believe that this organization may be past the point of giving it all they have to put a true championship contender on the floor. They have no reason to. We sell out every game, our popularity is among the elite in the league, and we will still retain our 4 core players. We may have become the Braves and Bills of the NBA. After 2005, they guys upstairs knew what we had and said "%%%% it we're still gonna get paid no reason for urgency here." LIke I said I will be here but it will be more as a casual fan than as an obsessive one.
  2. JGeezy

    JGeezy Second Round Draft Pick

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    Forget that, the center of the future is already on the squad! Play Maxiell! Everytime he's in the game he provides explosive D and scoring, yet Flip refuses to play him consistently.
  3. himat

    himat Bench Warmer

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    Maxiell is already too small to play power forward let alone center.
  4. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

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    Same with Ben Wallace.
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    McSheed Second Round Draft Pick

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    Atlanta Hawks
    Restricted: Esteban Batista, Royal Ivey
    Unrestricted: Stanislav Medvedenko Limited Salary Protection: None


    Boston Celtics
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    Unrestricted: Michael Olowokandi Limited Salary Protection: Ryan Gomes (no salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full), Leon Powe (no salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter $150,000 and will increase to $200,000 if not waived on or before 10/1/07), Allan Ray (no salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Ryan Gomes Leon Powe


    Charlotte Bobcats
    Restricted: Alan Anderson, Walter Herrmann (T), Ryan Hollins (T)
    Unrestricted: Derek Anderson, Matt Carroll, Jeff McInnis, Jake Voskuhl (P), Gerald Wallace (P) Limited Salary Protection: Brevin Knight ($1,500,000 salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Gerald Wallace


    Chicago Bulls
    Restricted: Martynas Andriuskevicius, Andre Barrett, Andres Nocioni, Mike Sweetney
    Unrestricted: Malik Allen, P.J. Brown Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: P.J. Brown (old though)


    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Restricted: Dwayne Jones, Sasha Pavlovic, Anderson Varejao
    Unrestricted: Ira Newble (P), Scot Pollard Limited Salary Protection: David Wesley ($250,000 salary protection)

    Interests: Anderson Varejao


    Dallas Mavericks
    Restricted: None
    Unrestricted: Austin Croshere, Devean George (P), Jerry Stackhouse, Kevin Willis Limited Salary Protection: Jose Juan Barea (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/1/07, thereafter full), Pops Mensah-Bonsu (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/31/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Austin Croshere, Jerry Stackhouse, Pops Mensah-Bonsu


    Denver Nuggets
    Restricted: None
    Unrestricted: Steve Blake, DerMarr Johnson, Eduardo Najera (ETO), Jamal Sampson Limited Salary Protection: Anthony Carter (no salary protection if waived on or before 9/15/07, thereafter full), Von Wafer (no salary protection if waived on or before 9/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Eduardo Najera, Steve Blake


    Detroit Pistons
    Restricted: Will Blalock (T), Amir Johnson Unrestricted: Chauncey Billups (ETO), Dale Davis, Ronald Dupree (P), Antonio McDyess (P), Flip Murray (P), Chris Webber

    Obvious Keepers: Mr. Big Shot, Black Blalock, AJ, possibly C-Web, Ronald Dupree, Mcdyess, i think were about to bag Flip.


    Golden State Warriors
    Restricted: Kelenna Azubuike, Zarko Cabarkapa, Sarunas Jasikevicius (P), Mickael Pietrus, Josh Powell
    Unrestricted: Matt Barnes Limited Salary Protection: Monta Ellis ($100,000 salary protection if waived on or before 8/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Matt Barnes, Monta Ellis, <---Like this kid.


    Houston Rockets
    Restricted: Chuck Hayes
    Unrestricted: Dikembe Mutombo, Jake Tsakalidis, Bonzi Wells (P) Limited Salary Protection: John Lucas ($500,000 salary protection), Bob Sura ($1,000,000 salary protection)

    Interests: Dikembe(old) Bonzi Wells


    Indiana Pacers
    Restricted: Maceo Baston (P), Rawle Marshall
    Unrestricted: Keith McLeod Limited Salary Protection: Darrell Armstrong (no salary protection), Orien Greene (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: None really.


    Los Angeles Clippers
    Restricted: James Singleton (T)
    Unrestricted: Yaroslav Korolev, Jason Hart, Quinton Ross (T) Limited Salary Protection: Will Conroy (no salary protection), Paul Davis ($200,000 salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full), Daniel Ewing (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Jason Hart


    Los Angeles Lakers
    Restricted: None
    Unrestricted: Aaron McKie, Chris Mihm, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Shammond Williams Limited Salary Protection: Ronny Turiaf (no salary protection if waived before opening day, thereafter full)

    Interets: Ronny Turiaf, Chris Mihm, maby Smush


    Memphis Grizzlies
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    Unrestricted: Chucky Atkins, Junior Harrington Limited Salary Protection: Alexander Johnson (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/1/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Junior Harringtion


    Miami Heat
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    Unrestricted: Michael Doleac (P), Eddie Jones, Jason Kapono, Gary Payton, James Posey Limited Salary Protection: Alonzo Mourning (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/10/07, thereafter full), Chris Quinn (no salary protection if waived before 7/20/07, thereafter full)

    Interets: Maby Zo, most of them are too old.


    Milwaukee Bucks
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    Unrestricted: Earl Boykins (P), Ruben Patterson, Brian Skinner (T), Mo Williams Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Boykins, maby Patterson, Brian Skinner, maby Mo


    Minnesota Timberwolves
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    Unrestricted: None Limited Salary Protection: Craig Smith (no salary protection if waived before 8/1/07, thereafter $100,000 and will increase to $350,000 if on opening day roster and to full on 12/1/07)

    Interests: None.


    New Jersey Nets
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    Unrestricted: Vince Carter (ETO), Eddie House, Mikki Moore Limited Salary Protection: Hassan Adams (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full), Cliff Robinson ($500,000 salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Vince Carter


    New Orleans Hornets
    Restricted: Brandon Bass
    Unrestricted: Devin Brown, Marc Jackson, Linton Johnson, Desmond Mason, Jannero Pargo (P) Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Devin Brown, Desmond Mason


    New York Knicks
    Restricted: None
    Unrestricted: Kelvin Cato, Malik Rose (ETO) Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Malik Rose maby


    Orlando Magic
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    Unrestricted: Keyon Dooling (P), Pat Garrity (ETO), Grant Hill, Bo Outlaw Limited Salary Protection: James Augustine ($171,864 salary protection if waived on or before 7/30/07, thereafter full)

    Interests: Keyon Dooling, Bo, Darko


    Philadelphia 76ers
    Restricted: Louis Amundson, Shavlik Randolph (P), Louis Williams (T)
    Unrestricted: Alan Henderson, Joe Smith Limited Salary Protection: Bobby Jones (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter $100,000 and will increase to $200,000 if not waived on or before 8/1/07 and to full on 10/2/07)

    Interests: Joe Smith maby, kinda old though.


    Phoenix Suns
    Restricted: Pat Burke
    Unrestricted: Jumaine Jones, Sean Marks, Jalen Rose, Kurt Thomas (P) Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Kurt Thomas.


    Portland Trail Blazers
    Restricted: Travis Outlaw, Luke Schenscher
    Unrestricted: Jamaal Magloire, Ime Udoka Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Maby Jamaal.


    Sacramento Kings
    Restricted: Ronnie Price, Justin Williams
    Unrestricted: Mike Bibby (ETO), Vitaly Potapenko, Corliss Williamson Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Mike Bibby, Justin Willams, Vitaly


    San Antonio Spurs
    Restricted: Matt Bonner, Fabricio Oberto (P)
    Unrestricted: Melvin Ely, Michael Finley (P), Jacque Vaughn Limited Salary Protection: Bruce Bowen ($2,000,000 salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full), Robert Horry ($2,000,000 salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full), James White (no salary protection if waived before 8/1/07, thereafter $100,000 and will increase to $200,000 if not waived before 10/1/07 and to $300,000 if on opening day roster

    Interests: Bowen, Horry, Melvin Ely, Michael Finley, Matt Bonner, Fabricio Oberto.


    Seattle SuperSonics
    Restricted: Andre Brown
    Unrestricted: Danny Fortson, Rashard Lewis, Randy Livingston, Mike Wilks Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: Fortson, Rashard Lewis


    Toronto Raptors
    Restricted: Uros Slokar, Pape Sow
    Unrestricted: Darrick Martin, Morris Peterson Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: None. (Maby Morris Peterson for hitting 1 sec left shots :pound: )


    Utah Jazz
    Restricted: Dee Brown, C.J. Miles
    Unrestricted: Rafael Araujo Limited Salary Protection: None

    Interests: None.


    Washington Wizards
    Restricted: Andray Blatche, Mike Hall, Jarvis Hayes, Donell Taylor Unrestricted: Calvin Booth, Roger Mason, Michael Ruffin, DeShawn Stevenson (P)

    Interests: None.

    ***I really want to see Delfino, Maxiell, and Johnson play more.

    Hope this helps you all out for the long run :D

    **Info from ESPN, The god of sports**
  6. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

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    Bring back Theo Ratliff and Otis Thorpe. It would have been nice to have had both of them at the same time when they were both in their prime.

    :hoops:
  7. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

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    Scott Pollard:

    Was supposed to be the second coming of Bad Boy Bill. The world is still waiting. LOL

    :hoops:
  8. himat

    himat Bench Warmer

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    Jason Maxiell is shorter even shorter than Rip though. I say Maxiell should stay with the PF position.
  9. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    buddahfan Retired from Forum

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    Thorpe actually had better career numbers than Sheed. As I remember he was also one tough hombre on defense.

    C-Webb was actually traded for Thorpe in 1998

    Bio - Chris Webber Wikipedia RSS Feed Chris Webber

    Otis Thorpe Statistics - Basketball-Reference.com

    Rasheed Wallace Statistics - Basketball-Reference.com
  12. Maverick

    Maverick First Round Draft Pick

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    I like paul davis at the PF for us.. good player and good effort. and he played at MSU Bring in patterson too ..and matt barnes.. lol maybee some trades but wed get alot scrappier in a heartbeat with those 3.. bring in artest and the defensive transformation is complete. :P

    can u imagine running a lineup of
    1.Delf
    2.Patterson.
    3.Tay
    4.Artest
    5.maxy
  13. NTC

    NTC First Round Draft Pick

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    What about Marcus Camby?

    I dont know what it would take to get him, but I'm sure it would involve offloading Sheed in the process and most likely a 3rd or 4th team to get it done. I get the feeling he isnt exactly untouchable from Denvers point of view either, even after having just won DPOY, I think it would be worth enquiring about.

    C - Marcus Camby / Chris Webber (?) / Dale Davis
    PF - Antonio McDyess / Jason Maxiell
    SF - Tayshaun Prince / Amir Johnson
    SG - Richard Hamilton / Flip Murray / Carlos Delfino
    PG - Chauncey Billups / Javaris Crittenton (?) / Will Blalock

    I would be happy with a line up like that, nice combo of youth and veteran leadership, and it tightens up our Front Court defense. Unlikely to happen, though it would be ideal.
  14. TWOTIMESRALPHI

    TWOTIMESRALPHI Starter 3x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I'm pretty sure Camby will never ever have a season like last one again. He'll probably spend most of next season in street clothes due to injuries.
    What about Magloire? If he gets PT, he's a very solid rebounder, but a weak shot blocker. He would be only a slight upgrade to Nazr. imho- still, Nazr seems to be on the trading block.
    Play Nazr the first 20 games so that he gains some value and then get a decent PG for him.
  15. Tally

    Tally First Round Draft Pick

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    Whether he likes it or not, if Flip returns he is going to do some baby-sitting this year. The trade/MLE route is not going to be enough to restock the team for "one more run."

    Sheed is our new C unless it's one of our young guys or draft picks. If it's Dale Davis or Nancy I will probably cancel my subscription to league pass.
  16. st8ofmind

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    I don't like Magolire's game for the stones, they thrive on mobile and versatile big men, that isn't even kinda his game.

    The NBA is turning into nothing more than a pick and roll exhibition and he is horrible for that style of play.

    I'd rather go 'small', it's not like between Sheed, Dyess, and Amir you couldn't check 90% of the centers in the NBA anyways.


    I'm getting a little off topic here, but wouldn't Luke Walton be a great backup for tay for 15-20 mins per game?
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    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    Sadly, this is the same conclusion I have come to. Which is why it is necessary to take a hard look at what it might cost to re-sign Billups.
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    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

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    Maybe Walton the announcer would give us some props then.
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    It was pretty cool to read about Walton's son "Luke" being born in Breaks of the Game and being named after Maurice Lucas.
  20. Tally

    Tally First Round Draft Pick

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    This reminds me of a situation I had with a 1988 Jeep Cherokee. It had 175,000 miles on it and I wanted to put new rims and tires on it. My Dad, who worked at Jeep, cautioned me about putting good money after bad. I got the rims anyway and then parts just started falling off.

    Anyway, the engine died a year later, but the rims looked really good.

    Giving big money to Chauncey or anyone we would probably get in a S&T feels like buying new rims for that old truck. Maybe I should send my Dad to talk to Joe...

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