Who's to blame over the NFL work stoppage?

Talk about it!

A work stoppage shouldn't happen during the heights of profitability. It is reasonable for the players to expect the status quo as long as TV ratings go up and attendance stays strong. The owners shoulda been happy with just adding in controls for the rookie wages. The players shoulda been happy with NFL retired players getting improved benefits. In other words...take the 80 million dollar contract away from Matt Stafford, give him 35 million, and spread the rest around to the retirees.

The Players are more at fault IMO, but only by an inch.

The filthy rich owners have tons of responsibility in this too and they make me sick and I don't like them. In the end, however, it was the players who refused to compromise.

Admittedly, I vacillate on this one.

It's America.

It sucks but that is how the business world works. How many owners open up their books to employees? How many owners really give their employees such a big piece of the pie? Who takes the real financial risks? How many rookie quarterbacks never earned a penny of their salaries?

We all lose.

The problem becomes one of the American people. How long will the public continue to pay increased ticket prices for professional sports? My hunch is that pro sports have another 20 or so years before they fade into history. My only concern is that this will become a website about bacon...

Nah, the gladiator/war spirit is too deeply ingrained in humans.

We will always hunger for an arena where we can live vicariously through our warrior heros.

I wonder how expensive tickets were to the big events in Rome back in the day compared to now (as a percentage of income).

Uhmmm...I thought this WAS a bacon website. I agree with you on that part.

But Tashawn had a very interesting perspective on the sport/gladiator stuff and I agree. I just don't see sports going away. We will adjust to them or they will adjust to us. But they will be here long after us, I think.

I like your avatar algae eater, but mine is better.

Also notice that there are sports in the future, as referenced in Running Man, Tron, and Tron II (both 2D and 3D).

I'm sure there will be sports, but it will be at the intramural level or possibly a regional level. I just don't see a real need for national sports when most small towns survive just fine on minor league teams which involve almost no money compared to the major league stuff. Stuff like mens and ladies softball, volleyball, and citywide basketball will replace pro sports where too few get rich and too many sit on the recliner just eating........bacon. The option where more adults actually participate will eventually replace the greed of our current system, and promote healthier living.

As far as I know, Idaho has two division 1 college football and basketball teams, a minor league hockey team, a minor league baseball team, and a minor league basketball team.

The people in Boise live and die with that stupid college football team.
But that is it. They get about 3 months of football. The other college football teams has its fans too. Nobody gives a rats hiney on the other stuff.

It is so around here it is sickening. A lot of people root for the NFL Seahawks, Broncos, or Packers (or other teams). The first two teams are the closest NFL teams to Idaho. I don't know where the Packers fans came from (they liked them long before their recent championship).

Minor league sports just aren't the same. My kid is always bugging me to see an NFL game or any other REAL sports team.

I used to be a big fan of the Detroit Vipers. That would be a big time operation in Idaho.

The atmosphere at the stadiums is pretty placid (other than college football). It just isn't the same. Not even close.

Good points Darth...We'll just have to wait and see what happens. Cool Avatar...That big dummy fish would never catch me ya know...

This thread should be titled "Which side is more full of Bull Crap"

Lead negotiator says NFL proposed 10-year CBA - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The bottom line seems to be that the sides were never really close to a compromise.

I have to agree with ya Darth....

Player court 'victory' could wind up being anything but - NFL - CBSSports.com Football

So 4th and 5th yr FAs can't get their inflationary huge contracts.
Wahhhh WWWaaahh BawwwBBBaww.

Surprised to see it so close between the two and not overwhelmingly skewed towards the owners.

Darth---what are you doing with my back door key??

I'm so ticked. I just got back from Lowe's and I had just ordered and received five (5) Eagles KW1 Kwikset keys online and they are so cool, but they tried to cut them and they said that thay are made for a 6 point lock and not a 5 point lock. The ad said it would fit most 5 or 6 point KW locks. Anyhow, I've looked at three different places for Eagles keys and I got a really great deal on these, and these were the nicest looking ones, but I am screwed. Plus all of the places had the same type of key blank so I can't get an Eagles key that fits. Lowe's doesn't even carry a 6 point lock even had I wanted to change my lock.

They are nice looking keys, I have the exact same one. I got mine at a kiosk in the middle of the mall and they made it right there off of my original. You might have to go to a specialty key place to get any help.

Ok, I'll try that. Thanks.