Will Bynum > Rodney Stuckey?

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  1. 2Tough4You

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    You know he would inevitably go back to it after a few games.
     
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    But, it would give him a chance to try slowball for a while.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
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    If you go strictly by Roland Rating, then our starting lineup should be:
    Bynum
    Rip
    Tay
    Amir
    Sheed.

    Bench unit should be:
    Stuckey
    Afflalo
    Herrmann
    Maxiell
    Dyess

    Utility players should be:
    Kwame
    Sharpe

    That's how I see it too.
     
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    Interesting. I'd keep Stuck in the SL, but 4 out of 5 i agree with.
     
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    I don't think Bynum would be drastically better and I wouldn't move him to the SL right before the playoffs, but he sure has been playing better lately.
     
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    I agree, and it makes sense.

    You have two fundamentally different personalities (Stuckey,Bynum) body styles, movements and a comfort level that becomes obvious to all after some period of time. You only can train them for the opposite if you put them into a system that incrementally reinforces a learning curve. Stuckey is further behind Bynum because of pure confidence levels. Plus, Stuckey is underdeveloped and has not learned independence. The right system will help him. How far can he go? Who knows.

    What needs to be answered is what type of system do you mold your players (don't have them...then get them) around. It helps to have leadership that emphasis a learning organization. To get there, means an ambiance out of single loop into double or better yet, multiple loop learning.

    This is not esoteric stuff, but it is much more frightening than rocket science.
     
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    Curry's a strong believer in Chaos Theory, but it has been too steep a learning curve for our players. If only they had focused on Calculus instead of P.E. in high school.
     
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    Just want to point out that Afflalo has had a great year shooting-wise.

    This is a guy who is supposed to be a defensive specialist with a weak jump shot.

    eFG = .509 (RS is at .453)
    TS%= .550 (RS is at .509)

    So, if Afflalo would have missed all 71 free throws that he attempted this year, he would still have been exactly as efficient as Rodney Stuckey (from a points per shot attempt standpoint).

    We really need to keep Afflalo for the next 5 years at least.
     
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    Yep, he's a keeper. I think he's the heir to Rip's starting spot.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    This is true, and I think it's an atrocity that Afflalo didn't get more run at the 2/3 this year, but you can just about count on 1 hand how many of those shots were contested. A high percentage of his shots are WIDE OPEN from the corners or layups in transition. Can't really compare to a guy like Rodney, who creates almost all of his own offense himself.
     
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    There is something to be said for getting open in the first place though... and for having good shot selection.

    Also, AA got into the paint 24% of the time, which is pretty good for our team. Rip is at 15% and AI was at 29% for comparison.

    But Rodney... still a pretty weak jumper. But it least it was still way better than AI's. One problem with Rodney though, is that he gets blocked on 1 out of 6 shots in the paint. That will hurt your overall %.
     
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    Good point Tay. I would also like to add that it is on the coach to help create shots and opportunities for Stuck.
     
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    Yeah, he's gotta improve and work on that all summer. His form is good, so I think his jump shot could eventually become a weapon. It has been formidable in his best scoring games of the year.

    Good point about the blocked shots. Stuck is only shooting 50% on point blank shots right at the rim (NBA.com: Hot Spots ). Learning to go left will certainly help his ability to finish at the rim more often.
     
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    Stuck does get some amazing shots off from close range. But he probably does have tendencies that will be picked up on in the scouting.

    I never really noticed that he doesn't finish with the left very often. Didn't he break his right hand last year? That usually gets the off hand going.
     
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    I've seen Rodney go right and switch and finish with the left hand plenty of times. He doesn't drive and dribble with his left that often though... he can do it though.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGp8HioDJGY
     
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    Watching D-Rose gives me hope for Stuck. They are both equally bad defensively LOL, and Rose has the same, i'm awesome, now i suck game pattern.

    Maybe time is really all he needs to develop (and a better coach but that's besides the point)
     
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    It's all about thought process and how the coach guides the team.

    There is, generally, a very big internal wholeness the coach demands from the team. All must buy in.

    There is always a buy-in. From internal to external. Disruptions are the essence of growth and adaptability. It is loops upon loops. All loops must send their message.

    The merry-go round (from a hedgehog perspective) has colored JD's perspective: a following toward "no coach-able" arraignments.

    Think about this: who, from the organizational perspective, have understood the respective seats on the merry-go-round?

    In the age of life, the merry-go-round adapts for all seating arraignments.: bench comforts and the horse rides are eventually interchangeable. Equally, there are different dimensions of heights. It is not lost to all that variegated movements evolving from a horse-lift is progress to a lock-step of illusionary distance covered.

    For the carny operator, who controls the flow of time: it is all a set moment of so many revolutions. The next round is just another passenger arraignment.

    All GM's want to be carny men. Gentlemen, take your seats.
     

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