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Old 03-20-2007, 10:28 AM
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A pitcher gets credit for a Win. Won/Loss record for a pitcher is a key baseball stat.

15+ win Pitchers are a premium. 20+ win are elite.

Relief Pitchers who lose a lead (and the chance for a save) but continue to pitch and gain a victory are also elite. They have the confidence of their team to overcome adversity.

Complete Games is a wildcard stat. The Hockey equivalent is Shut Outs for goalies. There is no equivalent stat in Basketball afaik.

Saves are tricky.
Save (sport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

This is mostly a reliever (relief pitcher) stat.
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Thanks Darth/Roscoe. That was a great help. Just a couple i'm still not sure on.



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Yes. It's like a goalie in hockey. If the team wins the game the pitcher gets the win. It's a big deal.

No, most pitchers don't pitch complete games these days. They used to long ago. You want a guy with lots of strikeouts, low earned run average, plus lots of wins.

Relievers can get a save or a win in a game. A save is when the reliever comes in or eventually is in a situation where the tying or winning run is on base, I think, and he holds the lead. Or when he pitches X innings, I believe. It's been a while and I forgot most this stuff.
He can also get a win...if the team is losing when he came in...or if they were winning...he blows the lead...but then his team wins for him. It pisses off the starters to no end, lmao.
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A pitcher gets credit for a Win. Won/Loss record for a pitcher is a key baseball stat.

15+ win Pitchers are a premium. 20+ win are elite.
This still doesn't make full sense to me because don't they play over 100 games a season? When do they get credit for a win and when don't they?

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Relievers can get a save or a win in a game. A save is when the reliever comes in or eventually is in a situation where the tying or winning run is on base, I think, and he holds the lead. Or when he pitches X innings, I believe. It's been a while and I forgot most this stuff.
He can also get a win...if the team is losing when he came in...or if they were winning...he blows the lead...but then his team wins for him. It pisses off the starters to no end, lmao.
So it looks like relievers get lots of saves but not as many wins, and starters get more wins and not many saves.

Ok, so now i think i've got most of the cats down, i have to try and work out a strategy. and try and figure out which are the rare cats. (ie. blocks, steals)

also a couple more things on the positions.
UTIL is used like bball? (ie. any position)
what are P (3 of them) and DL (1)?
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DL = Disabled List aka IR

P are generic Pitchers. They can be relievers or starting pitchers.

UTIL are batting positions (generic)
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Uggh.

You know, from what I've seen, the people who miss the live draft seem to do better drafting than the people who hand pick their players. Probably because we don't let our personal biases get in the way.

But I want guys from a particular team so I am not sure what to do! I know eventually, my competitive nature will take over and I'll try to win at all costs rather than just have a ball playing. So I don't know what to do. Cognitive dissonance is a beotch.

I guess I'll just have to be happy with my HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP that is coming my way soon. That is if I can ever get some players on the ice. OK,wrong thread. LOL.

Webz, a pitcher gets the win when he leaves the game after establishing a lead or when his team wins. I think a starting pitcher has to pitch a minimum of 5 2/3 innings or something though. I used to know this stuff, but I lost interest in baseball for years until the Tigers revived it last year.

Like Roscoe said, 20 wins is excellent. I would imagine the good pitchers are very valuable assets in fantasy, but I'm not sure. Roscoe is being very because he KNOWS what is gonna happen if he gives us hints. But it's inevitable anyhow.
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Not much of a fantasy participant, but educating Webz about baseball sounds fun!

A starting pitcher needs to pitch a minimum of 5 innings to be eligible for a win in that game. If he goes at least 5 innings, AND his team has the lead when he leaves the game, AND they don't relinquish it for the rest of the game, then he gets the win.

Most teams use a 5-man rotation of starting pitchers, so starters only pitch once every 5 games, i.e. around 30-35 times a season (out of 162 games) at most. That's why a starter who wins 20 or more games in a season is considered an elite pitcher: his team is winning at least 2/3 of the games in which he starts.
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Not much of a fantasy participant, but educating Webz about baseball sounds fun!
Wow, thanks for all that info D4E. I understand now. I know how to play baseball mostly but i don't know anything technical about it. I never knew about the rotating 5 pitchers.

As long as i know enough about the statistical part of the game i think i might be able to avoid being an easy-beat.
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Wow, thanks for all that info D4E. I understand now. I know how to play baseball mostly but i don't know anything technical about it. I never knew about the rotating 5 pitchers.

As long as i know enough about the statistical part of the game i think i might be able to avoid being an easy-beat.
Yeah, they have to rotate em' or their arms will fall off.
Also, teams usually have a long reliever (set up man) and short reliever (who usually gets the save or the win).
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I can make the Friday Draft.

Not sure why, since the computer will do a better job than I will.

But, anything to beat Tater. (and he's going to go down in hockey - if I can get by roscoe).

Where do I find all the pre-draft info?? Player rankings , etc.
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I can make the Friday Draft.

Not sure why, since the computer will do a better job than I will.

But, anything to beat Tater. (and he's going to go down in hockey - if I can get by roscoe).

Where do I find all the pre-draft info?? Player rankings , etc.
Once you join the league officially you can find that stuff. Roscoe prolly sent you a pm. If not, pm me and I'll forward you the info.
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