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View Poll Results: How do you feel about Bary Bonds becoming the new HR king?
I don't want him to break the record and MLB should not acknowledge it 7 24.14%
Bonds is a great player and deserves recognition when/if he breaks the record 14 48.28%
Who cares? 8 27.59%
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I took Immodium last night. I don't know what is in it, or how it works. But it did the trick.

This morning, my wrists (RSI/Carpal Tunnel) were burning like coals from Hades had been placed upon them. I took Advil. I have no idea what it does or what is in it. I only know that the pain subsided and I am working away in blissful ignorance.

On Sunday, I had Tunnel Bar BQ (Windsor Classic dinner, directly across the street from the Windsor Tunnel exit). I drenched my ribs in TBQ Sugar Reduced Sauce. I have no idea what is in it. I have no idea what the sugar substitute is. It tasted good, and I ate all the meat.

These guys get handed miracle stuff from supposed experts. Experts other athletes in their sport also trust and rely on. Maybe they should do more due diligence, maybe they are liars. But the reality is that we all take things into our bodies daily without fully understanding their effects, origins, side effects and possibly even their legality.
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I took Immodium last night. I don't know what is in it, or how it works. But it did the trick.

This morning, my wrists (RSI/Carpal Tunnel) were burning like coals from Hades had been placed upon them. I took Advil. I have no idea what it does or what is in it. I only know that the pain subsided and I am working away in blissful ignorance.

On Sunday, I had Tunnel Bar BQ (Windsor Classic dinner, directly across the street from the Windsor Tunnel exit). I drenched my ribs in TBQ Sugar Reduced Sauce. I have no idea what is in it. I have no idea what the sugar substitute is. It tasted good, and I ate all the meat.

These guys get handed miracle stuff from supposed experts. Experts other athletes in their sport also trust and rely on. Maybe they should do more due diligence, maybe they are liars. But the reality is that we all take things into our bodies daily without fully understanding their effects, origins, side effects and possibly even their legality.
I assume that the person who gave you those drugs didn't go to prison. Also, you didn't mention anything about your shoe size growing 2 sizes or your head enlarging.

How would Bonds not notice these things? He had to buy all new shoes.
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I assume that the person who gave you those drugs didn't go to prison. Also, you didn't mention anything about your shoe size growing 2 sizes or your head enlarging.

How would Bonds not notice these things? He had to buy all new shoes.
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I assume that the person who gave you those drugs didn't go to prison. Also, you didn't mention anything about your shoe size growing 2 sizes or your head enlarging.

How would Bonds not notice these things? He had to buy all new shoes.
EXACTLY!!!!

When someone is sticking a needle in you, you ask questions. Barry it’s just b-12, and flaxseed lol.

When someone hands you a bottle of pills, you ask what they are. “Their magic Bean stock pills Barry.”

GIVE ME A BREAK!
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August 8, 2007

Here's what this means: Barry Bonds just broke baseball's most sacred record. It means he's the king. Hank Aaron went, what, 33 years as the king? You know, I'm not going to forget Hank, but he did it in a very different time. And so did Barry.

In the time that I played, there was so much focus on Hank and how often he was hitting home runs. And let me tell you, I saw a lot of home runs from Hank. I hit a few myself. But records are made to be broken and I guess one day, somebody might break Barry's record. Might be Alex Rodriguez, he's still young.

I've also thought about history and how Barry Bonds will be remembered, but that remains to be seen, with the young people, the hip-hop generation and all that scene sorting out his career and his accomplishments. And I am sure there are people concerned with how it happened. There has to be. But I'm not one of them. There's no shadow, as far as I'm concerned.

I played against Barry's dad, Bobby, for some time and he even finished up with the Cubs in 1981. His dad was a very good guy and I had a good feeling even then about Barry.

Man, can Barry hit. It seems like to me, maybe I'm crazy, but the better hitters are left-handed hitters. They've got better swings, smoother, they look better swinging the bat. They look wonderful hitting the ball out of the ballpark. Right-handers have a little bit of a hitch in their swings. Barry has a beautiful swing. So did Eddie Mathews, Willie McCovey, Ted Williams, Willie Stargell, Billy Williams, to name a few.

But right now, there's only one, and it's Barry Bonds.



Ernie Banks, "Mr. Cub," hit 512 home runs in his major league career. He was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1977.

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Re: How do you feel about Barry Bonds becoming the new HR king?

For those of you who think this record is tainted, you're wrong. Barry said so himself that it isn't tainted. So there.


Bonds hits No. 756 to break Aaron's home run record - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
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For those of you who think this record is tainted, you're wrong. Barry said so himself that it isn't tainted. So there.


Bonds hits No. 756 to break Aaron's home run record - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
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I took Immodium last night. I don't know what is in it, or how it works. But it did the trick.

This morning, my wrists (RSI/Carpal Tunnel) were burning like coals from Hades had been placed upon them. I took Advil. I have no idea what it does or what is in it. I only know that the pain subsided and I am working away in blissful ignorance.

On Sunday, I had Tunnel Bar BQ (Windsor Classic dinner, directly across the street from the Windsor Tunnel exit). I drenched my ribs in TBQ Sugar Reduced Sauce. I have no idea what is in it. I have no idea what the sugar substitute is. It tasted good, and I ate all the meat.

These guys get handed miracle stuff from supposed experts. Experts other athletes in their sport also trust and rely on. Maybe they should do more due diligence, maybe they are liars. But the reality is that we all take things into our bodies daily without fully understanding their effects, origins, side effects and possibly even their legality.
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Bonds reflects a society looking for an edge

We need to start taking a look in the mirror about our unsatiable need to alter ourselves before making a scapegoat of the Giants slugger, who is widely said to have used steroids.
By Kurt Streeter
August 7, 2007


You're a hypocrite . . .

If you knock Barry Bonds and let your daughter sneak an Adderall to do better on her college entrance test, then you're a hypocrite.

If you knock Barry Bonds and filch one of your husband's Prozacs to mellow out for a job interview, then you're the same kind of hypocrite.

Truth is, if you knock Barry Bonds and slip behind the stands to chug a few Red Bulls before playing in the office softball game, then you're a hypocrite too.

A lesser hypocrite, perhaps. But a hypocrite.

Bonds, it is widely said, has used steroids. And steroids, his extremely vocal critics say, have given the Giants slugger an unfair edge that will soon leave him standing alone with the career home run record.

But honestly, would that make Barry Bonds any different from your cousin the violinist, who takes a beta-blocker to steady his hands before a concert? Or you on Viagra, when neither of you really needs drugs medically?

I'm with John Hoberman, a professor at the University of Texas in Austin, who has long studied the tormented relationship among drugs, society and sports.

Not just in baseball, or in the Tour de France, he says, but in society at large, we are on a mad sprint to bust past our normal limits. We're awash in the use of all kinds of performance enhancements -- some illegal, some not.

As long as we do that, Hoberman says, and we don't start taking a long look in the mirror about our unsatiable need to alter ourselves, we need to think hard about singling out Barry Bonds.

He's a scapegoat. I agree.

It's simply hypocritical.

For me, none of this is to excuse illicit drug use by athletes. I cringe at the shadow our drug-addled pros have cast, at the fact I can't tell my nephew Jack that I know his sports heroes are clean.

No, this is about us. Hypocrisy is inexcusable too.

It's one thing that we're already medicinal lemmings. We take way too many pills with the encouragement of doctors who are working under the spell of companies such as Pfizer. It's even worse that loads of us are gulping pills nobody with any medical authority signed off on.

Take a look at two popular medications: Ritalin and Adderall. They can give a distracted kid the focus of a Tibetan monk. Doctors prescribe them for kids with attention disorders. These days, though, they are often the drugs of choice for kids who don't have attention problems but are looking to ace their exams. They help students cram for hours. They make a full day of testing seem as if it lasted 30 minutes.

Let's say your daughter is cramming for her SAT. She gets her hands on some of her best friend's Adderall pills and takes the pills to boost performance. Well, her scores will be stacked against those from other kids across the nation, and she'll have an unfair advantage.

It won't be just an edge in a pro sport that only a few of us have any chance of playing. It will be a cheater's advantage in the race to get into a top college, which for millions of us is the key to a lifetime of success.

How many of these kids get caught? How many get vilified? How many of their parents turn a blind eye?


He makes a lot of good points. People who live in glass houses, blah, blah blah. Too many friggen hypocrites. Not that anyone on this board is one, but a lot of people are, especially on the subject of taking performance enhancing or body enhancing drugs that are legal at the time taken.

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Re: How do you feel about Barry Bonds becoming the new HR king?

Buddha is right about hypocrisy so I'm willing to own up to this. This is really tough for me to admit. I've taken performance enhancers in the past: I once took Ex-Lax to enhance my performance in the bathroom.
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I don't like Bonds wether he used steroids or not. Wether he broke the record or not. What happened was an amazing feat. I can honor the accomplishment, but not the man. I grew up with Bobby Bonds and Willie Mays. Both were gentlemen and good ball players. I never liked Barry, even when he was small. I also didn't like Ty Cobb. He was a blantant racist and went into the stands to fight the fans. The personal stories I heard about Cobb made me realise that it's ok to honor the accomplishments without honoring the person. Many people will be concerned about steriod use and the numbers involved. For me, the most important factor is the type of Man the Pro athlete was...........
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